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External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:21:41 am »
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It has come to our attention that the Hard Drive Manufacturers have been selling external USB 3TB /4TB with Advanced Format 512e emulation. These drives are designed to be compatible with Win XP and have two internal partitions ie 2048GB and 746.52GB (in the case of 3TB). These partitions are merged into one Partition by the SATA to USB Bridge Controller IC on the casing pcb. It seems like a lot of conversion and emulation is happening in the Controller IC with a result of incompatibility with many devices. From our internal tests on one particular model it seems that you cannot bypass the format requirements and you are stuck with the above mentioned scheme.        

The above has been reported to Realtek and we hope with the help of Paragon that they will be able to make a new USB driver that is compatible with these new drives. Currently we do not have a solution and our only option is to start this thread so that users can post there feedback so that we can compile a compatibility list.

If the specification states as foll
Software Requirements • Works with Windows® 7, Windows Vista®, Windows® XP
Then be aware that this is more than likely a Advanced Format 512e emulation drive and may not work on the X2 / X3 Series as standard 3TB and above cannot normally work on Windows XP.

If you are not sure then we suggests you stick to 2TB USB Casings.

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Mede8er1 has endeavoured to post the Sata to USB bridge chip in the external  enclosures tested. That is just as important as the drive.  Those posting information about  desktop drives hosted in an  a third party enclosure, be it enclosed or slot,  should say what  that is.   The reason  for finding a drive others say  works, and doesn't for you, could be the Linux incompatible Sata to USB bridge chip in your enclosure.  One user believing his drive was the problem in the  end tested all 4 of his enclosures using Desktop Linux to see what  was going on. Only 1 of the 4 worked with an up to  date linux build,  on the same PC hardware where they  "all"  worked with Windows.

To see if this might be your problem read this:-

http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,13767.msg89799.html#msg89799
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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with Mede8er X2 / X3 Series
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 07:29:56 am »
WD Model WDBAAU0030HBK-01 3TB USB2.0 with SATA to USB Bridge Controller IC INIC-1607P has been tested and is compatible with Mede8er models.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with Mede8er X2 / X3 Series
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 07:32:10 am »
Seagate Expansion Drive Model: ID7AP-500 3TB has been tested and is NOT compatible with X2 / X3 Series.

EDIT: 2 December

Seagate Expansion Drive Model: ID7AP-500 3TB
Seagate Backup Plus 3TB
Seagate Backup Plus 4TB  

Above drives work fine on the X2 / X3 if you connect via a USB hub.

EDIT: 4 December
We have an internal release that fixes the support for the Seagate USB drives above and this will be releases asap for both X2 and X3 series.

7 Dec - V1.04 Released for X3D series and fixes all problems with 512e Seagate USB drives
Currently working on a fix for X2 series

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 05:44:30 am »
WD My Book Essential 3TB USB 2.0 / 3.0 Drive
Part Number: WDBACW0030HBK-01
Model:  WDBACW0030HBK-EESN

Compatible with all Mede8er Models

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with Mede8er X2 / X3 Series
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 08:36:48 pm »
WD Model WDBAAU0030HBK-01 3TB USB2.0 with SATA to USB Bridge Controller IC INIC-1607P has been tested and is compatible with Mede8er models.

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How is this tested ?
because i have the same drive and de med600x3d is not regonize de drive.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with Mede8er X2 / X3 Series
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 09:11:09 pm »
How is this tested ?
because i have the same drive and de med600x3d is not regonize de drive.


This thread was started using V1.  V2 requires Volume Names.  Does the drive have a Volume Name and is it formatted using GPT?  If it's setup for win XP using 4k sectors  then it won't be recognised by Linux.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 01:36:23 pm »
Any chance that this thread can be updated especially for the new firmware.

Searching these forums, many people are wondering on what 3 and 4TB HDD's are compatible (or recommended).  Internal and External.

I myself are looking at purchasing a 4TB internal HDD, but are finding lots of confusing information and find that whatever HDD I purchase, it looks like im taking a risk.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with Mede8er X2 / X3 Series
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2013, 02:12:10 pm »
This thread was started using V1.  V2 requires Volume Names.  Does the drive have a Volume Name and is it formatted using GPT?  If it's setup for win XP using 4k sectors  then it won't be recognised by Linux.
Hello, yes the drive have a volume name and its formated in ntfs with win8pro.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 09:38:10 am »
Works with Toshiba Stor.E Canvio 3.5" Desktop (P/N HDWC130EK3J1), after erasing/converting to GPT/creating 1 NTFS partition using Win8. I had to chkdsk /f the disk to get it recognized (there was a few index errors although I ejected it), v2.00 firmware is very sensitive to NTFS errors. Also, I had to plug the disk before powering on the X3D or it would'nt be recognized either. Next step, being able to access it through Samba!

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 09:56:03 am »
v2.00 firmware is very sensitive to NTFS errors.

We are finding win8/7 Save Removal is the biggest cause of these.  If you remove drives using the tool posted in Tips then that particular cause is eliminated.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 11:24:16 am »
Hello!
Im owner of Mede8er 800X3D.
I got problem with connect my Seagate External HDD.
My model is:
STCA2000100

http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/backup-plus-desk/?sku=STCA2000100

When i connect to USB 2.0 HOST is working, but when i try connect to 3.0 USB DEVICE not working.
Whats the problem.??

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 12:12:42 pm »
The usb 2.0 ports are the ones to host connected usb flash and disk devices.
The usb 3.0 port is only a slave port and used to connect your mede8er as a slave to a pc to acces the internal disk.

See the specs http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_product_med800x3d.html
Read the  Mede8er 400X/500X Beginners Guide
or Mede8er 500X2/400X2/450X2 Beginners Guide

Also check the Couto X3D Newbies Guide first.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 04:43:56 pm »
So is only for PC connection. Ok thanks for advise.

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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 04:54:19 pm »
Yes - the blue usb 3.0 is only for that.
Read the  Mede8er 400X/500X Beginners Guide
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Re: External USB 3TB /4TB Compatibility with X2/ X3 Series
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 05:02:05 pm »
Seagate 4TB Backup+ Desktop 3.5"
STCA4000200

works with 600x3d
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