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Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« on: January 11, 2010, 07:43:52 AM »

We have been having a lot of users having issues with WORKGROUP shares in Win7. I prepared this guide for Win7 32 bit and will need someone to varify if it works for Win7 64bit. 


http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/Win7_workgroup_Mede8er_v2.0.2.pdf :)

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 08:32:06 PM »
Hello.
I have tried this and it is not working.
I have win7 and mede8er in the same lan.
PS. I am new on this forum, from today i am a mede8er med500x happy user.
I'd like to say thanks to all the effort u do for this superb hardware to work fine.
I have win7 64 bits installed.
Cheers!

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« Last Edit: January 12, 2010, 08:38:29 PM by bogdanbz »

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 08:44:38 PM »
Hi bogdanbz

Someone needs to check why the workgroup share procedure is different on Win7 64 bit. Unfortunaltely I only have 32 bit version so I cannot help with this.

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 08:47:03 PM »
so, on Win7 32bits it is working?
I will try to find out how to resolve this problem on 64bits. I'll do more test and i'll post here the results.
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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 08:54:39 PM »
If you use v2.0.2 it works perfectly. I have two Win7 32bit PC's on my network and they have new virgin installs without any registry changes and it really works well.

If you really do not come right I suggest

a) Try using the Guest Account method
     http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php?topic=794.0 

b) Use HaneWIN NFS as it works better than Samba for streaming speed and it overcomes the Win7 Security issues.
     http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php?topic=185.0

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 07:06:01 AM »
Hi Mede8er1
I've tried this method on win7 64 bit and it doesn't work for me either. When you try to connect from the mede8er it connects to the win7 pc ok but no shares show up. I suspect it is because win 7 64 bit won't accept what is in effect an anonymous login as authority to access shares - only a guess here so please don't shoot me if I'm wrong :'(
The way I connect to my win7 pc is very much as you have detailed with the following exceptions:
At step 3 I turn ON password protected sharing (this is for my own particular security reasons)
At step 12 instead of everyone I choose the user name I login to the the pc with

Now when I go to the mede8er I set up a network shortcut to the pc using the username and password I use to login to the pc

This has always worked for me since version 1.2.2a and works well with version 2.0 and above

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 08:06:47 PM »
Hello,
I have tried to connect the med8er to win 7 64 bit but no luck. The device and the pc are in the same lan, med8er see the shares of another pc with win vista 32 on the same lan , a third  win xp 32 bits PC in the same lan see share ok.
Have u find out what is the problem that med8er do not see shares of a PC with win7 64 bits?
Thank you!
I'm using win7 64 bits and i cannot use this function and i need it very much.

I'm working in IT an i am familiarized with networks, but i don't know why it is not working.

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 08:54:27 PM »
hi bogdanbz,

Are these PC's all configured in a Domain or in a workgroup?
Read the  Mede8er 400X/500X Beginners Guide
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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2010, 09:49:06 PM »
Hello,

I'm a new user and got my mede8er today. Got it updated and all but have been struggling with the wired lan all day. I have windows 7 64-version. To make it more complex my mede8er is linked directly to my internet router. My windows pc is connected to a second router. I'm not sure how this influences things, but so far I have been unable to get anything going. Even after reading all the posts on the forum.

I also use a domain that differs from the standard 'workgroup' microsoft uses.

Any suggestions on how to procede?

THnx

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 07:20:35 AM »
Hello,
Al my pc's and the med8er are conected through a workgroup, not in an domain.

Thanks!

WIn xp pc - through switch - shares ok, Win vista 32 through wifi - shares works ok, win 7 64 bits - through switch (med8er is in the same switch) - shares not working.

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 09:02:07 AM »
@bogdanbz,

Can you try to ping your mede8er from a dos box and see if you get response?
If not, please verify that you have link and there are no firewalls on your PC or router blocking things.

If that works, type net view in your dos box and check if you see your mede8er hostname over there.
If not, something is still wrong with your network services on your PC...

Have you tried to reset your router (unplug power and plug it in again)?

Have you tried to open Windows Internet Explorer and type \\mede8er on the explorer web site input line?
So are you able to see the mede8er internal disk over your network from the Win7 side or don't you have an internal disk in your mede8er?
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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2010, 09:05:31 AM »
@destroyer2 ,

The use of 2 different routers connected to each other makes is more complicated to troubleshoot.....
Are you able to connect your PC and med8er to the same router and verify the working again?
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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 09:19:09 AM »
Hello  Maasbommel,

If i ping the med8er, a get response,
Netview from cmd prompt - it shows med8er, no problem.
I have restet my router a lot of times - no luck.
I see med8er hdd from windows explorer typing  \\med8er, my med8er have 500 gb hdd formated with med8er. I can copy, delete  files/folder from my win7 64 bits pc
But still no shares on my med8er from my pc.
Thanks!
My router have firewall disabled.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 09:50:09 AM by bogdanbz »

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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 09:30:58 AM »
bogdanbz,

Ok, so samba seems to work from your win7 64 pc to your mede8er, but not the other way around.
Have you verified that there is no firewall blocking things?

At the moment I don't have a Win7 64bit PC available to do verification.... only a win7 32 bit PC, and that is working.

Let's hope that there are other mede8er users around over here that have win7 64 bit config that is working and give some advise. Can somebody please respond to this post that have this kind of setup?
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Re: Idiot Guide to Win7 Workgroup shares on the Mede8er V2.0.2
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 10:15:24 AM »
Hi bogdanbz,
I have a similar set up to yours 3 pcs on my network including one with win7 64 bit  and all can be seen from the mede8er so perhaps I can help. Maasbommel has gone through the obvious things regarding connections so I think your problem will be with the Win 7 shares themselves.
 I see you have vista and xp machines in your network, can they access shares on your win7 pc?
Have you setup your win7 pc shares as per Mede8er1 post above but using your login name and pass rather than "everyone" - see my post above
When you go to media library on the mede8er and select network as the source what comes up? It should say:
return
my shortcuts
workgroup
your network name
sometimes this doesn't appear straight away so give it a bit of time
When you select your network name what shows up - does your win7 pc show up?
If it does, select it and enter the user name and pass you used for the shares on your win7 pc and see if it connects and shows your shares. One of three things will happen at this point:
1 The connection will fail
2 The connection will succeed but no shares will show up, just "return"
3 The connection will succeed and your shares will show up :D
If 1 or 2 happen then try selecting my shortcuts and setup a shortcut to your win7 pc - there are some details of how to do that here http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php?topic=47.0
Try this and see if that now connects and shows your shares

This should get you going but if it doesn't let me know the answers to the various points above and that should enable me to sort it out

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