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Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« on: October 17, 2012, 06:27:39 PM »
If the rumored DSM 4.2 update resolves Synology's current 8K NFS buffer size limit, I won't need to do this, but assuming not, I've started thinking about which NAS or home server would make a better alternative to the DS1812+ I have.

Obviously, I need NFS and ability to support 32K buffer size.

I went to Synology from WHS v1. But, I don't see better alternatives than Synology for something that support at least 30TB of media files. Any ideas?
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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 07:01:12 PM »
Is it possible to just install an alternative server package..such  as fedora?

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Re: Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 07:06:27 PM »
OpenMediavault on a pc or server?
Google for it. Or look in the specific section here on the Mede8er forum.

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 07:36:41 PM »
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Our engineers are currently trying to optimize the streaming on m2ts files and if they are successful then you may well be ok with Samba. This is no promise that the outcome will be successful but it is our current No1 priority with X3.

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 01:11:39 PM »
Appreciate that, thanks. Also hoping Synology implements 32K NFS support, but not holding my breath on that.

Re: alternatives, I'll look into OpenMediavault. Was hoping for more of a pre-built solution like Synology. I'm unsure if QNAP or other competitors support 32K NFS and fare better overall. Synology has a great reputation, but their forums are useless. In other words, the opposite of Mede8er's forum :).

Also looking into Windows 8 (or Windows Server 2012) and Storage Spaces, but reading about lots of issues with failed drives and difficulty restoring, not to mention slow read/write speeds.

For now, I decided to leave my 3D BD rips on my Synology for protection, but play back via an internal hard drive in the 1000X3D instead.
(2x) MED600X3D (HDMI Auto, auto frame rate, RAW 7.1 audio)
Firmware: Always Latest Beta
Networked via CAT5e
Streaming from Synology DS1812+ NAS via NFS
BenQ W1070 projector with 133" 16x9 Da-lite High Power screen
Audio connection via HDMI to Denon AVR-1913 receiver
Audio output to Pioneer SP 'Andrew Jones' 7.1 speaker system
Also networked: HTPC's, Fire TV's, Roku, PS3

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 02:31:17 PM »
im doing the same, its only  21.... 3D Movies in the internal hard drive.

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 02:38:48 PM »
Another option I'm looking into is unRAID, but I can't find much useful info on its SMB and NFS speeds. BTW, when you said your Synology reseller expected NFS 32K might come with DSM 4.2, did he hear that from Synology? Google-ing shows little on what to expect with 4.2. Thanks.
(2x) MED600X3D (HDMI Auto, auto frame rate, RAW 7.1 audio)
Firmware: Always Latest Beta
Networked via CAT5e
Streaming from Synology DS1812+ NAS via NFS
BenQ W1070 projector with 133" 16x9 Da-lite High Power screen
Audio connection via HDMI to Denon AVR-1913 receiver
Audio output to Pioneer SP 'Andrew Jones' 7.1 speaker system
Also networked: HTPC's, Fire TV's, Roku, PS3

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 12:38:50 PM »
So, I contacted unRAID and got this response. It's somewhat above my head, but does it sound like it could work with Mede8er?
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unRaid supports NFS version 3 which supports block sizes from 4K to 1M (in multiples of 1K I believe).  Normally a version 3 client will negotiate with the server at mount time the maximum block sizes for read and write that the two can support.  For example, on a linux client system I type this command to mount a nfs share being exported by an unRaid server at 192.168.1.10:

mount -t nfs 192.168.1.10:/mnt/user/Movies /x

Looking at the mount via “cat /proc/mounts” command yields:

192.168.1.10:/mnt/user/Movies/ /x nfs rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.1.10,mountvers=3,mountport=57039,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.1.10 0 0

Looks like the two negotiated a block size of 128K.  You can override the default by explicitly including the ‘rsize’ and/or ‘wsize’ mount options on the client.

Since linux NFSv3 supports block size up to 1M, I’m not sure how the two decided on 128K, but I could look into this if necessary.
(2x) MED600X3D (HDMI Auto, auto frame rate, RAW 7.1 audio)
Firmware: Always Latest Beta
Networked via CAT5e
Streaming from Synology DS1812+ NAS via NFS
BenQ W1070 projector with 133" 16x9 Da-lite High Power screen
Audio connection via HDMI to Denon AVR-1913 receiver
Audio output to Pioneer SP 'Andrew Jones' 7.1 speaker system
Also networked: HTPC's, Fire TV's, Roku, PS3

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Re: Alternatives to Synology for Home Server & Streaming Needs
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 02:01:26 PM »
So, I contacted unRAID and got this response. It's somewhat above my head, but does it sound like it could work with Mede8er?

Massbommel created a NAS Section on the forum for this kind of discussion.  One reason is he spots new posts there much  quicker...

http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/board,101.0.html