Just Got the MED1000x3d in USA overview

[kpump]

I just got and hooked up the unit, I love the look, and the build is very nice. The hard drive bay works well and the drive has not gotten super hot ( a little hot but not as bad as most external USB enclosures) It is a little quirky on some things.
On 1.0.3 release 8/22
1.) One thing I noticed Lyp sync for me had to be turned off, if left on DTS-HD tracks would cause audio and video to be stuttery and unstable. No lyp sync worked great.
2.)I have a ton of handbrake apple tv rips that play perfect on apple tv, ntv550, htpc, etc. But on this unit it starts with the 2 channel audio track from the atv preset in handbrake, if I switch to the aac 5.1 track the video will freeze on a frame and the audio will continue?? It does it on all of them about 20 or so videos? Played with all the settings no luck getting them to play.
3.) Seems to also have issue with hd audio above 5.1? I have a few movies with 6.1 or 7.1 and the audio will drop and not come back on. The reciever shows no audio track when it drops. It is pretty consistent a minute or 2 in the audio drops, if I pause and start playing sometime it will re-sync. sometimes not. I am going to move the files to the hard drive to test to ensure not a network issue, but i do not think it is, I have streamed 3d iso with dts-hd with no issues. It seems to be the 6.1 and 7.1 audio tracks that cuase the issue. These tracks all work on xbmc, ntv550. So i am sure it is not the file.

I do love the menu system, the build quality, remote is not bad, not great, need to point at pretty good not the best range.
I REALLY want this unit to work for me, I love the 3d iso option but need to get the small issues worked out. I have not done forced subtitle test, etc. I do not watch much with subtitles. The menu system is pretty fast, and good looking for a streamer. It is pretty much silent, and not sure if mine is broken but no lights on the front which is great for the theater room, I thought the little v on the front lit up, but mine does not??
Anyway any suggestions to work on the issues above would be awesome, I am ready to try to make this unit the streamer we all want (for local content anyway) I think it can be.

[Mede8er1]

kpump

Thanks for this feedback from USA. Comments in red

I just got and hooked up the unit, I love the look, and the build is very nice. The hard drive bay works well and the drive has not gotten super hot ( a little hot but not as bad as most external USB enclosures) It is a little quirky on some things.
On 1.0.3 release 8/22
1.) One thing I noticed Lyp sync for me had to be turned off, if left on DTS-HD tracks would cause audio and video to be stuttery and unstable. No lyp sync worked great. Suggest setting is 'off' and this function is really for PCM stream direct to TV as all HDMI based amps have this option built in
2.)I have a ton of handbrake apple tv rips that play perfect on apple tv, ntv550, htpc, etc. But on this unit it starts with the 2 channel audio track from the atv preset in handbrake, if I switch to the aac 5.1 track the video will freeze on a frame and the audio will continue?? It does it on all of them about 20 or so videos? Played with all the settings no luck getting them to play. If you can upload a sample we can investigate this Also suggest you use HDMI Auto to pass AAC 5,1
3.) Seems to also have issue with hd audio above 5.1? I have a few movies with 6.1 or 7.1 and the audio will drop and not come back on. The reciever shows no audio track when it drops. It is pretty consistent a minute or 2 in the audio drops, if I pause and start playing sometime it will re-sync. sometimes not. I am going to move the files to the hard drive to test to ensure not a network issue, but i do not think it is, I have streamed 3d iso with dts-hd with no issues. It seems to be the 6.1 and 7.1 audio tracks that cuase the issue. These tracks all work on xbmc, ntv550. So i am sure it is not the file.
Sounds like a network problem your side as both Dolby True HD and DTSMA works flawlessly

I do love the menu system, the build quality, remote is not bad, not great, need to point at pretty good not the best range.
Check the user manual  Page 12
I REALLY want this unit to work for me, I love the 3d iso option but need to get the small issues worked out. I have not done forced subtitle test, etc. I do not watch much with subtitles. The menu system is pretty fast, and good looking for a streamer. It is pretty much silent, and not sure if mine is broken but no lights on the front which is great for the theater room, I thought the little v on the front lit up, but mine does not?? The X3 only has LED's on the top Nav buttons
Anyway any suggestions to work on the issues above would be awesome, I am ready to try to make this unit the streamer we all want (for local content anyway) I think it can be.

[kpump]

Thanks I am using the hdmi auto, I will let you know once I copy the files to the HDD if it is network on the 6.1 and 7.1. Odd thing is the 3d iso was a larger bitstream than the 6.1 and 7.1, and it worked great. It is a 3d iso with dts-hd audio track, about the highest bitrate out there and the box handled it great!! It also does the dark night well, which was a torture test for other players. I will try to get a smaller version of the apple tv files I have, they are all around 3 -4 gb. I tried the Micca ep600g2 and it would not even play the apple tv videos. And it had way more issues with stability etc. I do really like this unit, I think it will be great. My other files are all MKV and other than the 6.1 and 7.1 issue they all seem to work great so far, the ISO playback has also been good, starting the right track on every one I have tried so far. I did look at page 12, I need to mess with it, I have it on top of my cabinet now about 3 feet of the ground, I will play with position since I will now make a home for it in my av center.

[Maasbommel]

Just to add some thing to prevent misunderstanding:
with HDMI Auto the Auto setting on the Audio HDMI is meant.

[Mede8er1]

kpump

What format are the files with the HD Audio drop out?

Mede8er1

[kpump]

Yup, I have the audio section set to hdmi auto, if i set it to passthrough it would not play the 2 channel audio on the m4v rips.
The files with the audio dropping are direct makemkv from my blu ray disc, no re-encoding just straight rips to MKV container. I do have the iso on one of them as well, I will test the iso to see if it does the same thing.
The files do play fine on my other streamer and xbmc, But I like this box, want to move to this for all my local content.

[Maasbommel]

Suggest you post some media info output of such a file to get an idea and also upload some sample on mede8er ftp as Mede8er1 suggested.

[kpump]

Here is the media info from one of the files that is dropping audio
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 35.0 GiB
Duration                                 : 2h 20mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 35.8 Mbps
Movie name                               :
Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-06-15 19:51:06
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.7.4 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.7.4 (1.2.0/1.1.0) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2h 20mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 32.0 Mbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 35.6 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.644
Stream size                              : 31.4 GiB (90%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : MA / Core
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS
Duration                                 : 2h 20mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 7 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless / Lossy
Stream size                              : 1.48 GiB (4%)
Title                                    : Lossless
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

[Mede8er1]

kpump

Sounds like it could be a X3 compatibility issue with MKV inc HD Audio or the writing Application - To confirm this can you try to use tsMuxeR and mux the mkv into a m2ts file as a test. We will also do some tests this side.


Mede8er1

[kpump]

Here is the m4v info pretty much all of the files are like this, the 2nd audio track when i switch to it , the video will freeze but the audio keeps going.

Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42
File size                                : 3.31 GiB
Duration                                 : 1h 27mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 5 432 Kbps
Recorded date                            : 2011
Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-04-01 19:32:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-04-09 02:21:13
Writing application                      : HandBrake 0.9.6 2012022800


Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1h 27mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 4 619 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 688 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 1.85:1
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate                       : 23.419 fps
Maximum frame rate                       : 24.390 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.219
Stream size                              : 2.81 GiB (85%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 120
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-04-01 19:32:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-04-01 21:53:17
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 1h 27mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 309 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 83ms
Stream size                              : 99.7 MiB (3%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-04-01 19:32:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-04-01 21:53:16

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 1h 27mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 83ms
Stream size                              : 399 MiB (12%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-04-01 19:32:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-04-01 21:53:16

[kpump]

Will do, I will test the ISO file later today and let you know. use the m2ts file

[Mede8er1]

kpump

Seems you are correct and X3 has some upper limit when using very high bitrate MKV inc HD Audio over Samba ie above 35mb/s. Converting to m2ts does fix this problem. Short term I suggest you mux your files to m2ts and we will investigate this.

Mede8er1

[Mede8er1]

kpump

Re m4v

Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate                       : 23.419 fps
Maximum frame rate                       : 24.390 fps

We do not support 'Variable Frame Rate'

Mede8er1

[Maasbommel]

kpump,

What source are you using to stream from?
Is it a NAS or a pc?

If its a nas, is that one capable of streaming nfs?

Then that might be a thing to try with the high bitrate mkv files.
NFS will have less overhead and so the max streaming speed is a bit higher.
It might be enough to stream those files.

[kpump]

Good Idea, I use a unraid server I will try nfs, I am pretty sure it will use NFS.
Thanks on the m4v, I will stop using the atv preset and make sure no variable bitrate. At leat I know now! thanks!