Movies won't rewind!

[jer1956]

I'm going to use makemkv on a dvd.iso which I use as a reference. I shall then see what happens, and what mediainfo says about it.

[jer1956]

Ok I have tested fast rewind. With the origonal DVD iso it is perfect. With the MKV it appears to display  the first frame of every GOP.  So  you see a sequnce of images that change every 3 or 4 seconds. This is happenning with the beta I am testing so I shall report it for that. No one is going to patch 1.0.3.

In the mean time use the cursor control to go backwards.

[Ahari]

Thanks the-osiris! I am giving Handbrake 0.9.4 a try. Busy re-encoding the mkv now. Looks like it will take ages on my old PC!

3. What do you recommend I use in future to rip with so as to avoid this problem?
see point 1 Smiley

Are you referring to using Handbrake to rip direct from the original DVD (is it a ripper or re-encoder?) or should I use one of the programs from DVD rippers under the link you refer to first and then use Handbrake to re-encode?

If so, which ripper do you recommend as I have already tried DVD Shrink which is what got me here in the first place! (I just read jer1956's post see below)

jer1956 - Thanks for checking this out and reporting it! I wouldn't know where to start! I am glad you got the same issue as me. At least I know that it is not just me being a silly rookie!  Incidentally, my mkv's will not reverse at all (the movie just freezes until I press play again), but the original iso was also perfect. It therefore is most probably not my original ripping method, but MakeMKV that is the problem. Am I correct in my thinking?

With the MKV it appears to display  the first frame of every GOP.  So  you see a sequence of images that change every 3 or 4 seconds

I just had a look at some of the other files I have on my Mede8er and I have the exact same problem you described with all other formats I tried! Various files: flv, mpeg & mpg all would only rewind the way you described. So I don't think this is limited to MakeMKV!

I am so confused now!

Is this really a problem with all the encoders and rippers or is it just the Med8er that is giving the problems?

It seems that ISO is the only format I have that actually rewinds files or movies correctly on the Mede8er!

Thanks again guys for all the help in troubleshooting my problems! I hope we can get to the bottom of this soon! This is really frustrating as I want to get on with it and use my Mede8er as it should be used (a lot!!)

[jer1956]

Thanks again guys for all the help in troubleshooting my problems! I hope we can get to the bottom of this soon! This is really frustrating as I want to get on with it and use my Mede8er as it should be used (a lot!!)

That sounds like my wife parking.  "They shouldn't park there, now I can't park" Answer. "You can park, but not in the way you like too!!!"

Lack of Fast Rew is not stopping you from using it. If you had wonky video output, or no audio...then you really would be in difficulties. You can still go backwards using the the left cursor.

It has been accepted as bug and listed in the latest beta list of bugs. But it is also lilely to be a Realtek SDK bug, and some of those just never go away. (Subtitle Off not working.... Grrrrr )

We have to get things in perspective.

[Ahari]

That sounds like my wife parking.  "They shouldn't park there, now I can't park" Answer. "You can park, but not in the way you like too!!!"

Ha Haaa! I know what you mean!

Lack of Fast Rew is not stopping you from using it.

No it is not, but I don't want to spend ages getting all my movies sorted out and converted to mkv only to have to redo it all later when I work out that I should have used this program with that setting and not the way I did it!

At the moment, I have done the movies that happened to be lying around on my PC and it only took about a day. My son is currently watching the exact offending movie that started it all (Ice Age 3) - again! I think I will hold off on the rest of my collection until I can work out a good work flow to get them on to the Mede8er with the least amount of hassle.

[jer1956]

You don't have to do anthing now but wait.....and live with using cusor controls for the time being. The problem is not in your files so you don't have to re-mux them, or transcode them.

..If you still have the DVD's you could just rip again using DVDshrink and leave as DVD.iso. Just do it as needed, once the kids have shown an interest in a particuler DVD.

P.S. MKV has one big problem...it's an opensource development where they change things becuase someone thinks it's a good idea. This can create issues, which take longer to fix using hardware/firmware based devices. DVD.iso, and bluray are fixed standards. They can't change, as that would mean new disks wouldn't play on old players etc. So if you stick to those you not going to find they don't play when you move on to another mediaplayer. Where as we all may find ourselves having re-mux MKV's  on a regular basis.

[Maasbommel]

I just checked VLC player as this is often a good reference for linux based boxes, like mede8er is and most hardware mediaplayers are.

VLC even seems to not have a FRew.

Regarding issues with Frew - this is a general thing with players.
You will often see they can smooth FF, but the other way seems to be not that smooth and choppy.

I just see it like this: for humans it is the same - walking or fast walking forward is easier than fast walking in backwards direction!  

[Ahari]

So is it the Mede8er that is at fault?

If so, any idea how long the wait to see a fix will be?

I suppose I could abandon mkv as a format and go back to good old  "Video TS" folders - that seems to work just fine. I really thought I had found the ideal format in mkv - one simple to make and easy to use file that stores everything you want to keep including alternate audio and subtitles.

(Aside: I wouldn't spend so much effort on what appears to be a trivial feature of the player except that we (read: myself and my son) love to do rewinds of a scene. Watching Scrat crashing into the ice over and over or falling up the cliff has us both in fits of laughter - me laughing at his contagious giggles and him at Scrat! Okay, okay... I also have a good laugh at Scrat!!)

VLC even seems to not have a FRew.

That always puzzled and annoyed me!

[jer1956]

So is it the Mede8er that is at fault?

If so, any idea how long the wait to see a fix will be?

I think we said that already!  We cannot gureentee a timescale for any problem. Some SDK issues have never been solved. Sanji can't just stop and wait whilst realtek fixes things. So it may not get fixed in the next release, which is already in beta.

[Ahari]

I think we said that already!

So you did! I read the posts again - sorry! For some reason, I thought you were reporting to MakeMKV!

P.S. MKV has one big problem...it's an opensource development where they change things becuase someone thinks it's a good idea. This can create issues, which take longer to fix using hardware/firmware based devices. DVD.iso, and bluray are fixed standards. They can't change, as that would mean new disks wouldn't play on old players etc. So if you stick to those you not going to find they don't play when you move on to another mediaplayer. Where as we all may find ourselves having re-mux MKV's  on a regular basis.

Good point! I suppose I will use Video TS folders instead of ISOs so that I can skip all that nonsense at the beginning of DVDs. Or I can make iso's without all the rubbish at the start.

What workflow & software do you guys use/ recommend for me?

[tachita_]

is much more better to use video_ts instead of ISO

for the record avoid to use mpg1/2 stream into mkv container...

for fast video rip  and with skipping annoying parts use DVDSHRINK with reauthor.... VSOConvertX.... or TMPEG

if you really want to encode SD content into mp4.... in your case I will choose xvid or divx with good quantitaiser
no need for h264 avc...  is really boring and useless

[Ahari]

Thanks tachita for your input.

I was thinking of going back to DVDShrink with re-author and ripping to Video_TS folders as I have always done. Nice to get some confirmation!  At least this way I will avoid the whole step of converting to mkv!

I was curious about h264, but I understand it uses a lot of resources to encode and is really best for BD - am I correct?

How do I get my mkv files back to Video_TS? I was so pleased with mkv that I went and deleted all my iso files!! I should have given it some time before deleting!

[jer1956]

Check  this out:-
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_mkv_to_dvd_with_freeware.cfm

Not sure if it is transcoding or not at firstr glance.

[Ahari]

Check  this out:-
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_mkv_to_dvd_with_freeware.cfm

Not sure if it is transcoding or not at firstr glance.

Thanks jer1956.

I'm actually trying Avi2DVD right now! Battled to get it to work at first, but it seems okay now. It seems to be taking a looong time, so I imagine it is re-encoding.

Tried a few other pieces of software and nothing seems to do it easily (like MakeMKV but he other way around). All are either re-encoders, take longer to get the install working than the actual encoding or just don't deliver.

I've been Googling around and although it is really quick & easy to make mkv files, it is another matter all together to get mkv back to Video_TS files!! Beware!

I was hoping you guys had some "magic" way to do it! 

I may find it easier to go back to the DVD's that I do have and use DVD Shrink to get the files out again!

What a mission!

[jer1956]

It isn't something most people would want to do. Changing package just to get FRew workling seems a bit extreme. Just use the left cursor button and go back a  little.