FTP and NFS

[charl]

Now that i have found the Mede8er drive on my network i am attempting to copy music from my PC to the drive but i keep getting an error message during the copy process, the message is something to the effect that the network connection has been lost or that network device is no longer available. At first i thought it could be that the folder i was copying across was to big(20gig) so i tried copying album for album, i manage to copy 3 or 4 before the error message appears again. Then it's impossible to delete the file unless i format the Mede8er drive and reboot my computer.

[Maasbommel]

Hi Charl,

How did you hook up your Mede8er to your PC, can you describe your configuration?

The problems you describe sound in first place like low level network connection problems, e.g. a defective UTP cable or something like that....

E.g.: Is your Mede8er connected to your PC with UTP fixed cable to a router and then with cable to your PC?
Or do you use wireless or powerplugs?

Can you please give some more details about your setup?

Regarding your note about not albe to remove files anymore: they probably got corrupted because your connection was unstable. Just hook up your mede8er by USB cable to your PC and delete the corrupted files. That will work, no need to reformat your disk I think.

regards,
Maasbommel

[Insomniac]

I always recommend using a copy manager, such as Supercopier2 (my personal favourite).
I have serious issues with the Windows copy shell.
If you have too many concurrent copies you'll bring everything down to a standstill.

A copy manager will queue your copies and is especially helpful with large data transfers with its error correction, resume, logs, editable copy list on-the-fly, speed management... blah blah blah...
This is truly the best piece of software I have on my PC: Supercopier2.
No, I don't have shares in it but I wish I did because MS could learn a thing or from this...

I'm not saying this will resolve your issue, but I did need to climb on my soapbox...

As Maasbommel asks - you need to provide more info on your configuration.

[Maudrid]

Now that i have found the Mede8er drive on my network i am attempting to copy music from my PC to the drive but i keep getting an error message during the copy process, the message is something to the effect that the network connection has been lost or that network device is no longer available. At first i thought it could be that the folder i was copying across was to big(20gig) so i tried copying album for album, i manage to copy 3 or 4 before the error message appears again. Then it's impossible to delete the file unless i format the Mede8er drive and reboot my computer.

I've had this same issue and I've been trying to recreate it in order to reply to this thread     
NAS Server on Mede8er stops working randomly .

If you can reliably recreate this issue please see if you can help out in the above posted thread.

[charl]

Hi Maasbommel,

From my router i run network cable to 8 port hub and from the 8 port hub i run network cable to a 5 port hub which in turn is connected to the Mede8er and my Yamaha DSP Z7 amp via network cable. My PC is connected to the 8 port hub via network cable. I have another PC and printer connected to the 8 port hub. I'm sure the cable from the 8 port hub to the Mede8er and Amp is working fine coz i can access my Amp from my PC thru this cable. What other info do you guys need?

I managed to delete the files, thanks.

Hi Insomniac,

I will give the Supercopier a go if i don't come right, thanks.

Hi Maudrid,

It seems you have similar issues with coping as i have.

[charl]

Hi charl

Are you trying to use NFS ??

Mede8er1

Hi Mede8er1,

Any help with NFS?

[Mede8er1]

Hi charl

What help do you need?

Mede8er1

[Maasbommel]

Hi charl,

Just to get a clear picture: where is the UTP cable connected to your Yamaha Amp used for?
Only for remote management or is it used to download things from the internet?
I asking this to get an idea how the load is over the second 5 port hub to get an idea if this load is low or high.

I still have the idea that you are having low level connection issues.
Thinking of the following:
- a defective cable between your 5 port hub and the mede8er
- an issue with the 5 ports hub
- incompatibility issue (speed sense problems) between the mede8er and your 5 ports hub.
- a half defective port on your 8 port hub.

What I suggest is the following for further troubleshooting:
1] connect the mede8er direct to your 8 port hub (remove the cable from the 5 ports hub that goes to the 8 port switch and connect that to the mede8er.
2] reboot your mede8er
3] try to copy again af large file to check if you get disconnects

If you are still having disconnects, connect the mede8ter with another good known utp cable to a good known other port on your 8 port hub and try again.
If doing this procedure you are able to eliminate a defective hub or defective utp cable or port on your 8 port hub.

another question: do you also get NAS failed messages on your mede8er screen when you start up the mede8er or toggle the setting in the mede8er setup? That is something Maudrid sees.

[charl]

The network cable to my Amp is used to access music files on my PC and download firmware for the amp, i can control the amp from my pc if i type in the Amp ip address in my browser. These functions aren't used all the time so i guess the load is low. My Mede8er is connected to the amp via HDMI and amp to plasma via HDMI.

I will try what you suggest and bypass the 5 port hub and cables. The cable from the 8 port hub to Mede8er is almost 40 meters long, distance shouldn't be a problem, maybe? From the 5 port hub to the Mede8er the cable is 1 meter long.

Never had NAS failed messages, once i switch Mede8er on it does take a minute or so for "NAS ON" to appear.

[charl]

Hi charl

What help do you need?

Mede8er1

What would i use NFS for in my set up or is there no need to activate it for copying. I have no idea what NFS is used for, sorry but i'm still new to this. I originally got Mede8er thinking i'd connect it to my PC and transfer music DVD's to the hard drive and then connect to home entertainmnet system and repeat every time i got a new music DVD but i like the option of copying directly to the Mede8er hard drive from my pc. Same for when i copy new CD's to iTunes on my PC.

[Maasbommel]

Hi charl,

The max lengt for a good UTP cable is 100m at 100BT speed.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable
And then it must be a good crossed UTP cable with the correct collered pairs twisted and connected right on both ends.

Another thing that can give strange problems in connectivity on a UTP connection is cross-speak of signals.
Cross-speak can happen when a utp is lying near to a power-cable (220Volts). It then can pickup signals and influence the data signals on the UTP cable resulting in data retries (slow connection) and also data transmission fails.

If you still have problems after my earlier test suggestions, you can also try to move your media8er close to the 8 port hub and then connect it with a short known good UTP cable (corrected twisted color pairs).

Hope this helps in finding the root cause of your connection problems.

Also thanks for your feedback about the NAS ON message. This behaviour is as it should be and so sounds to me that your problem is different to that of Maudrid.

[Insomniac]

What would i use NFS for in my set up or is there no need to activate it for copying. I have no idea what NFS is used for, sorry but i'm still new to this. I originally got Mede8er thinking i'd connect it to my PC and transfer music DVD's to the hard drive and then connect to home entertainmnet system and repeat every time i got a new music DVD but i like the option of copying directly to the Mede8er hard drive from my pc. Same for when i copy new CD's to iTunes on my PC.

NFS is used for streaming HD content from networked storage to your Mede8er - this is known to provide for faster throughput. It is currently of no use in respect of copying files.

I stand by my suggestion to use a copy manager for file transfer to a NAS share - I use SuperCopier2. This integrates into Windows Explorer and replaces the default copy shell. One can very easily flood and bring down a network by initiating too many copy processes at once - Supercopier2 manages this by queueing these copy processes and only allowing one at a time. You can then pause and resume, even remove or promote and demote various files in the copy queue.

[donatello2000]

Hi guys...

well, not my day...
always get frustrated with network issues, and the same is today...
Tried to hook up my mede8er to network, but no luck. Device itself recognised the network and assign IP automatically... but when trying with RUN - \\mede8er\  my PC cannot find it....
Any suggestions?

Big thanks!!!

[charl]

Hi Maasbommel,

I connected the network cable from 8 port hub to the Mede8er and managed to copy 20 gigs of music without a single problem or error message... I then connected the way it was before but connected to a different port of the 5 port hub, copied some movies and was going great but ended with same error message. So, it's either the cable or the 5 port hub. You mentioned the type of network cable, i'm not sure what type the cable is that i used from hub to Mede8er, it was a spare cable i found at the office. What must i ask for when buying from PC shop? My Yamaha amp manual recommends straight network cable, what are the other types so i can ask for correct type. If that doesn't solve the problem then it must be the 5 port hub. My 5 and 8 port hub are both from the same manufacturer, Canyon.

[charl]

Hi guys...

well, not my day...
always get frustrated with network issues, and the same is today...
Tried to hook up my mede8er to network, but no luck. Device itself recognised the network and assign IP automatically... but when trying with RUN - \\mede8er\  my PC cannot find it....
Any suggestions?

Big thanks!!!

Have you set up sharing on your PC? And is NAS enabled? And firewall settings?