Mede8er and 4K Multimedia player

[jer1956]

I fear mede8er.eu may be doing an A C Ryan. Going up market when the demand for it is not there. It is not a risk the main company will undertake. Their view of the world market is very different. Overloaded with cheap 4k boxes at one end, and expensive 4k Smart TV's at the other. The economics of the market gap in the middle is not good, and far worse than when the likes of Popcorn, A C Ryan and Med8er started.

[monkeywash]

I truly think the market is still there - Dune, Zappiti and a few others seem to be doing ok and bringing new products to market.

There seem to be plenty of people out there who want something a little better than a cheap 'droid box, and rightly so.

I have to admit though, I don't hold much hope for a 4K Mede8er which is a real shame, because the support and enthusiasm has been second to none over the last few years.

[jer1956]

The few who post here don't count as plenty. Mede8er will not do an Xstreamer. Ask for your money up front, and if they get enough to develop it, they will. Their judgment is they wouldn't.

[monkeywash]

Very true, but I was thinking wider than the forums - the CI market for robust music and video streamers has always been strong and somewhat exclusive (I used to be in that business) but I think there's a strong middle ground in the very wide gulf between the likes of Kaleidescape and cheapo media players.

Maybe where the HTPC crowd live who want something less fiddly, more robust and yet still customisable.

I take your point - it's always a case of investment, but I do feel optimistic, even if the landscape doesn't include Mede8er, which would be a shame - they quietly created quite a decent reputation. 

[jason777]

Hi,

Sorry for my english

I was owner of a mederer 400 and was so happy to use it but unfortunately, Because a lot of x265 that I find, I will to have a box who play this format but Mederer didn't do that !

So I buy one other (no pub)

And I'm so so mad of that because I have to work on all my media to be read with Kodi, and me, I prefered the mederer appareance with Yadis...

So please, please do anything for this !

The x265 is the future and a lot of TVBOX work still whit ....

I hope....

[jer1956]

The Arm based chips are not based on using any chip makers previous SDK's. It has been a revolution, not an evolution. All the code evolved from 1073, through 1185 to 1186 is totally unportable. The only cost effective way to deliver Arm based devices is crank the handle on the arm sdk and use what comes out.  It will look and operate very much like the zidoo. Badging dosn't interest Mede8er International. It was always about developing products with their software ideas.

[monkeywash]

... Badging dosn't interest Mede8er International. It was always about developing products with their software ideas.

Isn't that what Dune have done and continue to do with their boxes using the Sigma 8758?

I'm now using the Dune 4K Solos exclusively for movie viewing in both 2K and 4K, H264 and H265 and they are as robust as the Meds and I have to say, have better performance. However, I still use Meds for TV and still hold hope that something will happen with them this year.

What I don't understand is the relationship between all the seemingly different arms (pun not intended) of Mede8er, how Sanji fitted in and why no-one is able to say definitively whether there is an appetite for development somewhere in the Mede8er jigsaw or not..

[jer1956]

It's too late for sanji/mede8er international to shift to Sigma. That would also mean starting from scratch. No one can recover the costs in todays market swamped by cheap boxes and Smart TV's.

Mede8er.eu where always a separately owned marketing and support section, not product development. They would like new product, even if just by cranking the ARM sdk handle and badging what comes out. They would be risking their money on it.

[monkeywash]

Ah, that explains a lot.. both in terms of development and how Mede8er fits together.

It doesn't sound promising then, and that's a real shame, but it gives us a more realistic expectation.

[Silver-Eye]

Well, there is always another way..

Kickstarter or some other similar platform. At least they would now where they stand, and I bet that all of us who love their MED players would buy the new set.

[jer1956]

That is too much like Xstreamer. Vapourware, taking pre-orders before the player exists. Mede8er have never done that. I can tell you i have had a working breadboard player testing software before any announcement is made.

[m.r.f.]

The Arm based chips are not based on using any chip makers previous SDK's. It has been a revolution, not an evolution. All the code evolved from 1073, through 1185 to 1186 is totally unportable. The only cost effective way to deliver Arm based devices is crank the handle on the arm sdk and use what comes out.  It will look and operate very much like the zidoo. Badging dosn't interest Mede8er International. It was always about developing products with their software ideas.

Is not true, seeing the new zappiti 4K HDR has the realtek RTD1295 and the interface is the same as the previous ones.

[jer1956]

Is not true, seeing the new zappiti 4K HDR has the realtek RTD1295 and the interface is the same as the previous ones.

That is a cosmetic change, akin to badging. The issue is the portability of the functional code from previous designs of inhouse chips. Sanji didn't just badge, they created a lot of their own code.   They have no interest in badging.

The 1295 chips use Google TV Android. Before that,  realtek chips had android, and their own linux based SDK. Mede8er never used the android.

[DrByte]

@ Monkeywash,

Three days ago I bought a Dune HD Solo Light.
It's a very good player.

I still had the box, cash receipt etc. from my Mede8er X8003D and I already sold it.
Much regards,

DrByte

[monkeywash]

@ Monkeywash,

Three days ago I bought a Dune HD Solo Light.
It's a very good player.

I still had the box, cash receipt etc. from my Mede8er X8003D and I already sold it.
Much regards,

DrByte

I've been using a Solo and a Solo Lite for a couple of months now, and I must admit, they're very impressive both in 2K and 4K.