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Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:05 pm »
MakeMKV is PC or MAC software that will extract  2D or 3D BD to MKV format without any Video or Audio loss of quality.

Benefits of MakeMKV in relation to 3D BDISO files on Mede8er X3D player

* Zero loss in Quality Full 1920 x 1080 image - Full HD Audio
* 3D MVC in MKV container is easier to stream on a network and you should be able to stream most if not all 3D files on Samba from a good NAS on a Gbit Network
* File size of the MKV will be smaller than the ISO as you only keep the Playlist, Subs and Audio tracks that you need.
* Subtitles are supported and you can add your own SRT if required.
* If selected the Forced BD Subtitles with appear in the Subtitle list.  
* Chapter functionality is fully retained.
* As the MVC is one file within the MKV it solves the problem of branched BDs Most players cannot deal that well with M2TS / HD Audio files that are split -- you can get audio and picture freeze when jumping from one branch to another.
* Automatically open in 3D with Mede8er Firmware V1.0.4 and later. Add 'TB' or '3DTAB' to file name  
Example 'file.name.TB.mkv' or 'file.name.3DTAB.mkv'
* It has been reported that these files can be streamed via UPNP but we have not checked this as yet.



Download MakeMKV   http://makemkv.com/
Simple Guide http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/makeMKV_guide_v1.jpg
MakeMKV Tutorial  http://www.makemkv.com/onlinehelp/
Tutorial by Nicolas Bcuwe http://www.hdfever.fr/2012/09/02/tutoriel-riper-un-blu-ray-3d-en-mkv-avcmvc-full-hd-3d-avec-makemkv/

Mede8er has no interest or connection to MakeMKV software but we feel this may well be a elegant solution for many of our users.

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Subtitle Issues

Two issues have been identified with MKV subtitles.
1) The 3d plane used is screen depth...not the plane set in the subtitles. That is normally plane 0, i.e. "front".
2) Subtitles can disappear on pause, or alternate subtitles vanish.

Tsmuxer has now caught up with MakeMKV. V2  handles 3D, and will also remove branching, but in BD form. It is also lossless repackaging. The x3d BD player processes subtitles correctly.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

Any problems should be posted here:-
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=b78c7e2e394dfc954fcac131da93253b&t=168539


Those who have not yet started to use MakeMKV and need subtitles should seriously consider this  route instead.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2014, 12:44:18 pm by jer1956 »

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Re: Makemkv - extract 3DBDISO to MVC MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 08:42:42 am »
Here my contribution a step by step to Rip Bluray with MakeMKV

enjoy

Go to http://makemkv.com and downlaod the lastest version




1- preferences
2- volume/hard drive
3- apply




4-audio and video language
5-apply



6-general
7-apply



8- Insert the disk in blu-ray reader




9- makeMKV analise the disk all that matters is the movie file
10- 99% of the time the biggest file is the movie, sometimes theres 2 versions of movie, just pick one to extract



11- tick the box MVC-3D to extract 3D Movie (for 2D leave MVC blank )
12- tick the box for hd audio, dts or dolby digital
13- subtitles, tick the box forced subtitles if you are English native and like to watch without subtitles, during foreing passages in movie your mede8er can read them (with subtitles ON)
14- where our movie goes
15- RIP movie




16- after 20 minutes or so the movie is extract, put the correct naming and add  3DSBS or 3DTB if the movie is 3D




YOUR MOVIES ARE READY TO WATCH IN X3D PLAYER WITHOUT BUGS OR ISSUES

17- you can download media info to analyse your movies



VIDEO

18- you can watch the bit rate is 41.8mbps if you compare with some torretz movie they  will have low quality video about  2000kbps  ;D
19- O multicount view - 2 means its the left and right 3D version of the 3D movie



AUDIO

20- on the top check the audio it says  MA / core, that means DTS-MA  in  lossless format
21-  DTS version is lossy

« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 10:06:24 pm by couto »
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Re: Makemkv - convert 3DBDISO to MVC MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2012, 08:57:13 am »
The subtitle name needs to be exactly the same as the moviename.

So if you add SBS or 3D to the moviename, you do that the same to the .srt:

3D SBS and TB in File Name - Name file xxxxxxxx.SBS.mkv or xxxxx.TB.mkv - X3D will auto open as 3D

Means for .srt subs:
xxxxxxxx.SBS.srt or xxxxx.TB.srt
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Re: Makemkv - convert 3DBDISO to MVC MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2012, 10:55:52 am »
If you need to share 3d media via a NAS with a popcorn..then you can now use the popcorn 3d naming format instead with 1.0.4.

Of course it also makes it easier to  ditch your 3D popcorn and get an X3D instead!  ;)
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Re: Makemkv - extract 3DBDISO to MVC MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2012, 11:25:40 am »
If you need to share 3d media via a NAS with a popcorn..then you can now use the popcorn 3d naming format instead with 1.0.4.

Of course it also makes it easier to  ditch your 3D popcorn and get an X3D instead!  ;)


both formats work for popcorn and x3 nice ....well for x3  its  working, latest report is that not  working well for popcorn A400  ;D

and what about to change the title name of this topic from convert to extract   because  what I've  read  in makemkv forums  it will extract  the file,  continues to be  lossless.




 
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Re: Makemkv - extract 3DBDISO to MVC MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 12:20:20 pm »
both formats work for popcorn and x3 nice ....well for x3  its  working, latest report is that not  working well for popcorn 

No, only the X3d supports both formats.  I doubt popcorn are going to support the X3d format..they have bigger problems to solve  at the moment. 

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 12:26:09 pm »
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and what about to change the title name of this topic from convert to extract   because  what I've  read  in makemkv forums  it will extract  the file,  continues to be  lossless.

Good point and we have taken your advice

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012, 02:06:48 pm »
just to let you no i tested a few movies 3D  extract with makemkv, and its works has advertise.

example:  how to train your dragon 3D.sbs.mvk ( firmware  v.1.0.3 - 13 november /med600x3d )
 
im using internet by satellite, and i can't get  the latest firmware yet to test. :'(

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2012, 06:46:01 pm »
I cannot express how exciting this news is!  I bought the 1000X3D specifically to play back 3D files (only). I tried makemkv as well as other mkv tools and could only get 2d to play back on the X3D previously with the November firmwares without success and succumbed to the idea I'd have to burn hard drive space with iso's. 

I do have a question.  Even though my 3D is MVC (frame packed) I still need to either choose via menu top and bottom, or rename the file including a .TAB to invoke the 3D? Or is it just .TB. for top and bottom instead of .TAB.?  Today I would name my iso's as Clash of the Titans.iso. If I used makemkv I would need to save the filename as Clash of the Titans.TB.mkv? Or does it need to include the "3D" as in Clash of the Titans.3D.TB.mkv?  I'm so excited I'm trying to think of ways to get off work early to go try the new firmware!

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 06:57:29 pm »
The 1.0.4 download page states the two naming formats.  If it's not clear please tell us what  we can do to make it clearer.

The two top on bottom naming formats should trigger MVC processing.

The selection of MVC in MakeMKV is not the default. You have to expand the streams as shown above..and select MVC.
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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 07:50:03 pm »
Thanks. What confused me is the multiple naming schemes used in this comment:

2. Added additional naming support for auto 3D play for 3D Top and Bottom / Side by Side 
    3D SBS and TB in File Name - Name file xxxxxxxx.SBS.mkv or xxxxx.TB.mkv - X3D will auto open as 3D
    Added  'file.name.3DTAB.mkv'  'file.name.3DSBS.mkv'

Mentions using  xxxxx.TB.mkv and also using 'file.name.3DTAB.mkv' so I wasn't sure which one was correct (TB or TAB) and whether "3D" needed to be included..

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 08:00:35 pm »
There are now two supported naming standards..X3d..and popcorn. You can chose either, or both..but not for the same file.


OK..someone go and use  both and prove me wrong! 8)

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 06:35:41 pm »
New Release MakeMKV

MakeMKV v1.7.10 ( 2.1.2013 )

* Improved handling for DVD discs with mastering errors
* Many miscellaneous improvements

http://www.makemkv.com/download/

NOTE THIS IS A PAID VERSION
You can find a key that will allow you to use the program till end Jan 2013
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 11:30:21 am »
This works brilliantly

Select your  3d iso in make mkv

Select the 3d mcv file and the audio track you want

Job done

Takes about 30 mins on my old desktop for a 50gb iso

Dredd 3d for example , it stripped out the 2d version of the film , menus and extras and brought the file down to 30gb
Lossless no change in quality and sound

It's the way forward  ;D

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Re: Makemkv - Extract 3DBDISO to MKV - lots of benefits
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 01:10:59 pm »
New Release MakeMKV

MakeMKV v1.7.10 ( 2.1.2013 )

* Improved handling for DVD discs with mastering errors
* Many miscellaneous improvements

http://www.makemkv.com/download/

NOTE THIS IS A PAID VERSION
You can find a key that will allow you to use the program till end Jan 2013
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053

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I entered this key on the latest version, funny thing is it said it was active until early March yet after putting this in it now says Feb, although underneath this it says expires - Never, so does this mean this version will now not expire?
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