Tobs
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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2011, 01:20:20 pm » |
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Unfortunately my receiver doesn't have that option. That would be a great solution for my issue.
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jer1956
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« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2011, 01:33:47 pm » |
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Please read the posts of 3DTV issues if you have one. The issues with those is the delay is video output resolution dependent. The fix should be done in the TV as it's their design which is creating the issue.
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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2011, 10:07:08 pm » |
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Hey guys,
I got the same problem - with a epson beamer!
Working is only Firmware V4beta5. God knows why, but the sync problem is gone... Not the best solution at all, but it works.
regards
j
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« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2011, 09:10:57 pm » |
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Recently bought a samsung ua40d6600wr 3d tv and ever since I have been having the same problem. As mentioned in this thread, 1080i with 24frames disabled kinda helps out. A little disappointing so say the least, luckily for me being a tv buff, I bought a popcorn hour C200, which when mentioned to the mede8er guys at the mede8er stand at the audio visual expo, they had a fat lot to say about my purchase.
But you know what, it was the best purchase I ever made! Who's laughing now? Awesome thing about the pch c200 is you can alter the lip sync audio to what best suits you! Maybe it's something the mede8er team can look at adding into their new firmware update. Seeing that they will be concentrating more on their 500x2, I can't help but think, all of us whom invested in the first model will be put in the backseat. More reason to persuade us into purchasing the new and improved unit.
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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2011, 10:05:38 pm » |
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I wonder what owners of older popcorn devices think about them coming out with 2 or 3 new models every year? Grass is Greener...!
You forgot to mention the c-200 costs twice as much.
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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2011, 10:45:05 pm » |
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This kind of desired audio sync features should come from the SDK Realtek part that Mede8er cannot influence. I know that this kind of feature has been forwarded to Realtek several times by Mede8er, but until know it is not possible with the Realtek code.... None of the Realtek players can.
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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2011, 11:38:09 pm » |
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Yeah, I guess the realtek chipset has a lot to do with the issue. One of the main reason I bought two media set top boxes, one realtek, and the other sigma.
Honestly find the mede8er, much easier to use, and it has some functionalities that can't be compared, one of many reasons why I have not parted with it yet. Guess it's always nicer to have the best of both worlds.
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jer1956
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« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2011, 10:47:25 am » |
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Technology has moved on and sync is becoming automatic. But like all things automatic involving two or more devices, they all have to implement it for it to work. So where a newer device uses newer sync technology it should say so. It's been shown that most 3D TV's need a variable delay that can only be supported through an automatic system...HDMI 1.3 Lip Sync. But that isn't a mandatory part of HDMI 1.3. It's the kind of "nice to have" you would get with a more expensive HDMI 1.3 controller, not one built into an integrated budget bluray chip.
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« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2011, 03:53:47 am » |
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I had this issue when i first started getting into AV receivers. I have done a lot of research and have looked everywhere trying to find a solution. You would think people would make YouTube videos about it or at least it would be common av receiver knowledge.
My first receiver was an onkyo one but with no hdmi ports, and than i bought another onkyo with hdmi hoping it would fix the av sync issue, but it didn't. Than I bought a sony receiver which sounded about the same as the onkyo one with the hdmi but it had the same issue.
I came across one post talking about lining up the tv speakers with the surround speakers and i did at one stage try it but not seriously. Just recently i thought i would try it again and this is what really fixed the issue.
Every receiver obviously will sound differently in regards to delay time, so it wont be the same delay time on all units. What you need to do is make sure the receiver is allowing the tv speakers to pass thru as well as the amp ones .. usually an option that has amp+tv .. under 'speakers' category will do it. What you than need to do is go to your av sync setting and set it to the point where there is no echo, so that the tv speakers and the receiver speakers line up or are in sequence. Mine is set to 60ms and it is perfect.
This method will only work if your tv speakers are syncing the video with the audio.
I hope this helps ... I have tried everything and this was the only real solution.
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« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2012, 05:03:04 pm » |
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Im so glad I found this thread as Ive been going crazy trying to work out why anything I play on my MED500X to my new Samsung D8000 LED has terrible lip-sync, even when . I also have a home theatre PC which exhibits the same problem, but my Popcorn Hour A110 is more precise in this respect. I will try the 1080i settings although to be honest Im not that happy about that workaround, particularly as I paid an awful lot of money for 'full' HD.
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jer1956
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« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2012, 05:12:45 pm » |
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Ask samsung when they are going to send the lip-sync delay to their own HDMI audio amp. Everyone keeps blaming sources which where designed for 2d Tv's supporting CEA-EDID audio delay...not HDMI 1.3 lip sync that 3d TV makers assume will be supported..and don't tell buyers they need.
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« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2012, 05:39:09 pm » |
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I have the option of exchanging the Samsung for something else, are you saying that if I was to of purchased a non-3D screen I wouldnt have had this issue? Given the choice of sacrificing 3D (literally, only useful for Avatar) for fixing the sync issue I would lose 3D in a moment.
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jer1956
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« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2012, 06:42:22 pm » |
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You need support for CEA-EDID Audio Delay. Like HDMI 1.3 Lip Sync...it won't be publisiced. So take your med with you and test if you can.
If you have a 3D TV you need amps which accept HDMI 1.3 lip sync adjustmant. Those who have such surround amps have no issue with 3d tv's...until they use them direct. This is where the blame game starts. TV makers say it sources which should correct. But so far the only kit with the sync correction are the latests amps..so why don't they sync their own HDMI amps in the TV so any source will work?
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« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2012, 07:49:30 pm » |
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I have a Denon 3808 receiver which is about 5 years old, there is an HDMI auto lip-sync option within its HDMI setup but even with that the issue remains. Im really at a loss of what to do, I cant very well replace my existing AV equipment but at the same time I love the Samsung and would be very upset were I to have to change it for something else.
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« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2012, 10:08:51 pm » |
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To me this is a collective industry mistake which no one wants to admit. Devices can't be built to deal with the future. It's up to later devices to deal with older ones. It was obvious that the internal hdmi amp should have been lip synched...leaving older hdmi sources to output in sync.
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