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Offline chiodo23

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Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« on: January 10, 2015, 04:43:23 pm »
as u can see in the subject header my question is will there be any new mede8er players in the not so distant future that will have 4k support, i currently have a 600x3d player and i am looking into getting another one but with 4k technology interest starting to increase i might hold out and wait for a mede8er player that supports 4k

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 04:44:23 pm »
EDIT: this was meant to go in the x3d section not the x2, not sure how to move topic
sorry.

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 05:35:05 pm »
There is no point making a 4k box if it "performs" worse than  the x3d.

The current "cheap" 4k technology dosnt....and its  a gamble to believe enough people will  pay extra for a 4k player that Sanji  have made better than  the x3d.  There are lots of people who just want Android/kodi at the cheapest price possible...and don't care if it has clock issues and no  3d. It would be like Sanji  going backwards to  an X2, and making a box which isn't even  as good...but runs android/kodi. That seems to be the be all and end all  for a certain kind of user.


We don't even have 4k disks to rip, and 4K vod services have contracts only with the Smart 4K TV makers.

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2015, 05:38:32 pm »
ok thanks for the reply

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 09:31:01 pm »
I am reminded of Linn Sondek. Those of a certain age will remember that once they had the lp12 they stuck with it. Yes they improved it, but it was others who kept trying to knock it of its perch.  

As far as I can see all the new guys with their cheap android/kodi boxes may add fancy new features...but in terms of performance the x3d reamains king.

Linn never competed with the cheap knockoff merchants with their fancy gizmos.

It was some time before they had a digital product worthy of comparison with the lp12.  

The idea of making a worse product to compete in a new lower quality market created by new conmpanies never crossed their mind.  They didn't see them as competition.

Same goes for Meridian.   They will only make a new product if it better than what  they make already.  That means they no longer maker a CD player as cheap  as their first Meridian MCD.  Anyone can make a player as good as that now.....Meridian now expect you  to pay thousands for a CD player. Owning a Meridian product is no longer something an average Joe can  do. That was possible when they first started.


Both these companes would rather sell a thousand ultra expensive units and maintain  their standards, than sell  to  customers who used to buy their products in a market where the prices wont sustain the standards they set themselves.

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 11:29:06 am »
4k players is a complete rubbish and waste of resources..Mayby there is huge image processing but,
the greater part mediaplayer users use ripped files or recoded with resolution anything but not level of 4k ,good even if full hd.

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 11:36:30 am »
Its far too  early to  be thinking of future proofing yourself for 4k support.  Future proofing is a bad concept anyway. How many times have we seen early adopters with kit that dosnt support the standards actually needed by the time things go  mainstream?  For example, people with HD shop  display plasmas which  had no HDCP?  For a couple of years they could impress there equally uniformed friends that  they  where already ready for HD, only to  find they had a heap of junk.

Right now there are lots of chips with Generic H265 support. We have no idea if Generic H265 will be used on the yet to  be announced disk  format. Rovi already have the 4K VOD market using Divx HEVC, and could do  the same with optical  disk. Generic H265 could end up playing very little but 4k camcorder video.

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 01:58:58 pm »
I h265 does not mean higher image resolution,
just a better package for the current h264  ::)

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Re: Future or in development Mede8er players with 4k support
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 03:11:42 pm »
H265 only comes with 4k chips. The use of codecs is driven by a function which needs it. Mpeg2 was driven by DVD, h264 by bluray, and h265 by 4k TV.


But this time a commercial company have got control.....so 4k without Divx HEVC is going to satisfy very few. This could be a real problem for realtek if they are stuck with generic h265.

Rovi have been known to watermark videos. So you could end up with divx hevc written across the video  if you dont have an approved divx chip to remove it. Sure you could remove it someone comes up with a transcoding to to do it, but that takes time.
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